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How Can A Loving God Send People to Hell?

Many people have often wondered: If God is so loving, how can he send people to a horrible place like hell? This question could be answered in the following way:

Think of a person whom you love very dearly. It could be your wife, your child, your husband or even your best friend. Then one day you discover that a serial killer broke into your loved one’s home during the night and then raped your loved one and then killed her before escaping. Such an inhumane and disturbing crime committed to your loved one by this murderer would obviously grieve and horrify you I’m sure. However, after several investigations into this heinous crime, the police capture this serial killer and the killer is brought before the judge for sentencing. Before the judge’s sentencing it was discovered through evidence that the killer is unrepentant of his crimes and even scoffs at the law. How would you want this judge to sentence the rapist/murderer who committed this crime against your loved one?

Which of the options would you expect the judge to take? Would you want the judge to:

a)      Give this killer the just sentence he deserves and sentence the killer to jail according to the full requirements of the law? OR

b)      Allow this killer to go free; to immediately go back into society and not be punished for the heinous crimes he has committed against not only your loved one, but perhaps against many other people who also lost their loved ones as a result of this killer’s crimes?

Let’s just assume this judge does Option B and decides to allow this serial killer to go scot free and not be punished at all. As a person who lost his loved one because of the crime of this killer,

1)      How would you feel about this judge or this judge’s sentencing?

2)      Would you feel that the judge is a righteous, just and loving judge for allowing this unrepentant killer go free?

3)      Would you feel that there ought to be more judge’s like him/her who allow every or any criminal to be set free irrespective of their crimes; irrespective of the fact that they mocked the laws; irrespective that they were unrepentant; and irrespective that they had no regard for the authority in the land because these criminals believed that they should be allowed to do as they please?

I’m sure you would agree, that it would be a very suspicious and troubling scenario if the judge executed Option B. The judge’s ethics, morality and understanding of the law would be questioned given the crime. Because if a just judge is to judge the crime, then he would make sure that the time would fit the crime.

So, how can a loving God send people to hell? To further and fully understand the answer to this type of question, we also need to understand the following 5 issues:



a)      God is Love – 1 John 4:16-17 ESV – So we have come to know and to believe the love that God has for us. God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.

b)      God is Just & Righteous – Psalms 7:11-12 ESV – God is a righteous judge, and a God who feels indignation every day. 12 If a man does not repent, God will whet His sword; He has bent and readied his bow;

c)       God is Holy – 1 Peter 1:16 ESV – Since it is written, “You shall be holy, for I am holy”.

d)      God is Forgiving – 1 John 1:9 ESV – If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

e)      God wants EVERYBODY to Repent and NOT Perish – 2 Peter 3:9 ESV – The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.

f)       God chooses to be gracious and merciful according to His will – Exodus 33:19-20 ESV – And he said, “I will make all My goodness pass before you and will proclaim before you My name ‘The Lord.’ And I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show mercy on whom I will show mercy.”



a)      God sees sin as being a crime against His law and His principles. Therefore in God’s eyes, sins are like crimes that cannot be allowed to go unpunished.

Proverbs 11:21 ESV – Be assured, an evil person will not go unpunished, but the offspring of the righteous will be delivered

b)      Sin can basically be defined as any type of wrongdoing against God. In other words, if God says that a certain behavior, thought pattern or lifestyle is wrong or bad, then that behavior or lifestyle can be defined as being a sin. Sin cannot be defined through the eyes of the world or by the world standards and systems. Sin can only be defined through God’s eyes and by God Himself.

c)       Everybody is a sinner and is guilty of sin. Nobody is inherently good and all of mankind is capable of sin no matter how big or how small we may think our sins are.

1 John 1:10 ESV – If we say we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.

Romans 3:10 ESV – As it is written: “There is none righteous, no, not one;”

Romans 3:23 ESV – For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

d)      Sin has the detrimental effect of causing a spiritual separation between God and man. Therefore sin causes rebellion against God and if allowed to rule in a person’s life – without true repentance – sin will prevent a genuine and saving relationship with God.

Isaiah 59:2 ESV – But your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God, and your sins have hidden his face from you so that He does not hear.



a)      Since God desires that EVERYBODY would repent and NOT perish according to 2 Peter 3:9, God’s solution for the problem of sin is to save mankind from the punishment of ETERNAL HELL through His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ.

John 3:16-17 ESV –  For God so loved the world,  that He gave his only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.  17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through Him.

b)      Because EVERY person is a sinner and is guilty of sin, therefore every person should be punished. However, by God’s love, grace and mercy, He sent Jesus who was sinless, to take our punishment as a sacrifice for our sins in place of us. Jesus came to take the punishment for our crimes against God. Therefore Christ died in our place as our substitute. The price of our redemption had to be the shedding of Christ’s blood on the cross.

Hebrews 9:22 ESV – Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.

John 1:29-30 ESV – The next day he (John) saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!”

2 Corinthians 5:21 ESV – For our sake He made Him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God.

1 Peter 3:18 ESV – For Christ also suffered  once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit,



God’s offer of salvation is FREE. You don’t have to pay any pastor any money for it. You are not saved by your own good works, but you are saved by God’s grace or undeserved kindness. Therefore in order to be saved, you must

a)      You must ACKNOWLEDGE: You must acknowledge that you are a sinner and that you therefore need Jesus in your life.

Romans 3:23 – “For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God”

Luke 18:13 – “God be merciful to me a sinner”

b)      You must REPENT: Repenting means: to change your mind; a sincere turning away, in heart, mind and action; Therefore God wants you to repent of sinful values and of sinful living. God wants you to decide to follow Him.

Luke 13:3 – “Unless you repent you will all likewise perish”

Acts 3:19 – “Repent therefore and be converted that your sins may be blotted out”

c)       You must CONFESS: God is a forgiving God. God will forgive any sin that you have done because Jesus died for ALL your sins and to set you free from the bondage of all types of sin in your life.

Romans 10:9 – “That if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved”

d)      You must BELIEVE: You must believe that ONLY Jesus can save you and restore your relationship with God.You must believe that Jesus is the ONLY way by which you can have everlasting life and escape from eternal separation from God. You must believe that Jesus died on the cross for you and resurrected from the grave.

John 1:12-13 – But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God

e)      You must RECEIVE: By faith, You must receive Jesus as Your Lord & Saviour and therefore; you become a child of God; you become born again; you become a Christian; you restore your broken relationship with God; you are saved from eternal hell.

John 1:11-13 – He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him. 12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,



So how can a loving God send people to hell?

a)      If we make the choice of refusing to receive God’s FREE offer of salvation through Jesus Christ we are in fact refusing to be aligned with God.

b)      If we make the choice that we do not need God or the Lordship of Christ Jesus in our life, we automatically condemn ourselves.

c)       If we mock God and mock His word and scoff at God’s loving act of sending Jesus for our sake, to become our substitute, we are in fact refusing to be part of God’s salvation plan.

d)      If we make the conscious choice to not believe in God’s existence and to not follow or believe that His word gives us moral and spiritual guidance then we risk taking the path that leads to eternal damnation if we do not repent.

e)      If we refuse to repent but instead continue to be led by the standards of this world and false doctrines, we might risk the chance of leaving no room for the one true God to save us from eternal hell.

f)       If we do not believe and receive Jesus Christ as our Lord & Saviour we become condemned already. However if we receive Jesus Christ as Lord & Saviour we become a new creation who will not be condemned to hell – but instead we will receive the free gift of eternal life and reside in the eternal presence of the Lord.

Romans 6:23 ESV – For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

John 3:17-21 ESV – For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.  18  Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.  19  And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their deeds were evil.  20  For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.  21 But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his deeds have been carried out in God.

Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV – For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9  not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

2 Corinthians 5:17-19 ESV – Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation.  The old has passed away; behold, the new has come. 18 All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to Himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 that is, in Christ God was reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation.

Revelations 21:6-8 ESV – And he said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the spring of the water of life without payment. 7  The one who conquers will have this heritage, and I will be his God and he will be my son. 8  But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

Romans 1:18-32 ESV – For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened


The truth is this: People send THEMSELVES to hell by the rebellious choices they make against God and by not heeding to God’s warnings and not committing to God’s FREE plan for salvation through Jesus Christ.

Just because we decide to believe in our mind that neither God nor hell exists, it does not mean that the TRUTH will change. Hell exists and it is eternal.

The GOOD NEWS is that God offers a way of escape from the punishment of hell through Christ Jesus.

To know more about what the Bible says about hell, read BIBLE VERSES ABOUT HELL.





God exists. God loves you even if you are a sinner. Jesus died for ALL of us who have sinned and fallen short of God’s glory (Romans 3:23). God also loves you even if you don’t believe in Him. However, if you really want to know what a person’s character is like – you have to get to know that person one-on-one. We cannot accurately judge a person unless we personally know him/her.

God wants to have a one-on-one relationship with you. God wants to show you how much He loves and cares for you. If you would like to know God and to have a personal relationship with Him you need to believe and ask Jesus Christ to become your Lord & Saviour.

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3 Things To Do When You Are Desperate

Have you ever been desperate for help in your life? What do you do when you have a problem, and every possible solution you try fails you? You have tried all you can do with your own strength but nothing works; You even try to get friends and family to help you with your problem, but nobody can help you through your trials and affliction. When in such a situation, it can be very easy to give up hoping that things will get better. It can also be very easy for one to give up on life.

However, the Bible talks of a woman who had a disease and who was desperate for help after having tried all that she could on her own and still failed.

Mark 5:25-26 NKJV
Now a certain woman had a flow of blood for twelve years, and had suffered many things from many physicians. She had spent all that she had and was no better, but rather grew worse.

The Condition of The Woman with the Issue of Blood

  • It is believed that the type of illness that this woman had for twelve years was perhaps a type of chronic cancer or tumor of the uterus.
  • Her illness had caused her to continuously lose blood and therefore she would constantly be in a weak, frail and overwhelmed state.
  • She was socially alienated because of the custom / tradition at that time. Her issue of blood was perceived as being “unclean” and therefore most likely caused her to be constantly isolated from society and from family. (Leviticus 15:19-30 NKJV). Everything and everyone she touched became ceremonially unclean, so she would have been shunned by everyone, including her family and friends.
  • Her illness had caused her much affliction. Therefore she was frequently in physical pain. Therefore whenever you are in a state of unending physical pain, this will begin to have some negative effect on your mental and emotional state.
  • Her finances had suffered because of her illness. She had spent all the money she had on getting treatment from doctors but no physician could successfully help her with her affliction.
  • Her problem grew from bad to worse. Clearly her illness was going to kill her.

In summary: Her health was failing; the experts had failed her; her finances had failed her; her friends & family had failed her; and society had failed her.

Mark 5:27-29 NKJV
When she heard about Jesus, she came behind Him in the crowd and touched His garment. For she said, “If only I may touch His clothes, I shall be made well.” Immediately the fountain of her blood was dried up, and she felt in her body that she was healed of the affliction.

Despite the physical pain; despite the failures; despite the isolation from society; despite the financial meltdown; despite the mental and emotional anguish, during her 12 years of affliction, this woman did not lose at least 3 important key principles & characteristics that were pertinent to her receiving her breakthrough from her afflictions.
Even in her desperation she still showed the following 3 positive attributes from which we can learn:

  1. Don’t Give Up – This woman did not want to give up looking for a solution to her problem. She never resigned to the notion that her illness was not curable. All her doctors had failed to cure her for 12 years, and the doctors had probably given up trying to help her. This woman “heard about Jesus” and so therefore she was not going to waste an opportunity for Jesus to help her. There are some people in life who have “heard about Jesus”, but whenever they have problems, they do not come to Jesus. They would rather focus on resolving issues with their own strength and influence; There are some people who have “heard about Jesus” but they do not believe that Jesus can help them in their time of need. Even under desperate circumstances they don’t believe that Jesus has the power to help them and so they seek help elsewhere or they give up hoping. When this woman “heard about Jesus”, she wanted to go to Jesus; she believed that Jesus would fulfill her exact needs. (Read also Luke 18:1-8 NKJV)
  2. Be Bold & Courageous – Remember that because of her issue of blood, this woman was considered to be “unclean” by society & by law and therefore she was not supposed to have any physical contact with anyone. She was supposed to be isolated from the public, because if anybody touched this woman, that person who touched her would also become ceremonially unclean (Leviticus 15:19-24 NKJV). This woman however showed boldness and courage by ignoring the potential backlash from the multitude of people that followed Jesus. When she saw Jesus, this woman did not feel embarrassed about her uncleanness but rather went through the multitude to approach Jesus so that she can receive her healing. As she went through the crowd to approach Jesus, she told herself “If only I may touch His clothes, I shall be made well.” Sometimes in our own lives, do we fear achieving our goals and doing the right thing because we fear what other people will say? Are we afraid of standing up for the right thing even if it is not the popular thing? Do you fear being ridiculed and embarrassed or are you bold like this woman who had the issue of blood? (Read also Joshua 1:9 NKJV)
  3. Have Faith in God – This woman had faith that Jesus would heal her simply by touching His garment. Therefore despite being failed by money; despite being failed by doctors; despite being failed by society; this woman did not lose her faith in God. She believed that Jesus would heal her. She believed that Jesus would not fail her. This woman was going to die from her illness and she had lost many things in her life, but this woman was not going to give up her hope and her faith that God would heal her. (Read also Mark 11:22-24 NKJV)

Sometimes when we are in a desperate situation – we may not have the money; our friends & family may have failed us; the experts who could help us may have given up on us – however even under such desperate circumstances – the only thing that you can hang onto is your FAITH in God. Your only choice is to have faith and let God do the rest.

Mark 5:30-34 NKJV
And Jesus, immediately knowing in Himself that power had gone out of Him, turned around in the crowd and said, “Who touched My clothes?” But His disciples said to Him, “You see the multitude thronging You, and You say, ‘Who touched Me?'” And He looked around to see her who had done this thing. But the woman, fearing and trembling, knowing what had happened to her, came and fell down before Him and told Him the whole truth. And He said to her, “Daughter, your faith has made you well. Go in peace, and be healed of your affliction.”

This woman was made well by her faith in Jesus. She finally believed that only Jesus would help her. Her faith in her finances failed; her faith in the doctors failed – but her faith in Jesus did not fail.

Are Christians Supposed To Have Problems?

Are Christians supposed to have problems? Should Christians suffer or should they be exempt from problems? If you have money and all the wealth in the world would you be able to make all your problems go away?
The truth is, as long as we live in a fallen world, we will always have problems. It is also important to know that problems do not discriminate. The true reality is that everybody faces problems – even the people who seem to appear (externally) happy and even wealthy. At times you will find that if you are not solving your own problems, then you are probably trying to solve somebody else’s problems.
Jesus was perfect and without sin. However, because He lived in a fallen world, Jesus Himself faced a number of challenges which He had to deal with. The great thing about Jesus is that He conquered and overcame EVERY problem that we can imagine.

John 16:33 NKJV
These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.”

Even during His ministry, Jesus was not immune to life’s problems and challenges. He was tempted; He was tested; He was accused; at one point, people wanted to throw Him over a cliff; He was betrayed and even in His own hometown people were offended by His message.
While we are in the world, Jesus does not promise that we won’t have problems. However He does promise that IN Him we will have PEACE in the midst of the problems.
There is a false teaching that exists where certain people teach that all Christians should be exempt of problems, hardship and suffering. Certain people teach and insinuate that if you are facing challenges in your life, then you might be cursed or that God is simply punishing you. They also insinuate that gaining riches and wealth is the answer to a problem-free life. Such teaching is false and is far from the truth of God’s word. When you become a Christian, God however, will strengthen you to overcome your problems. Why does God then allow us to have problems? Read this articleWhy God Allows Problems In Your Life.
Jesus though without sin and being the Son of God faced every possible type of temptation and challenge in life and He OVERCAME EVERY challenge with flying colors. He did not fail or allow any situation to overcome Him. He remained perfect, holy, and sinless in the midst of tribulation.
Therefore this means that Jesus is qualified to help us and to teach us to overcome any problem that we may face in life. Jesus tells us to be of “GOOD CHEER” because He has “OVERCOME THE WORLD.”

Romans 5:3-5 NKJV
And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance; and perseverance, character; and character, hope. Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.

If you are facing any type of problems in your life, there might be a reason why God has allowed it. Perhaps the Lord desires to build your faith in Him and your character through that problem.
Having problems do not always mean that you are cursed; or that your life is cursed; or that God is unhappy with you.
However, in a fallen world, God is able to use our problems in order to accomplish His will and His purpose for our life so that He alone is glorified. (Joseph said to them, “Do not be afraid, for am I in the place of God? But as for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, in order to bring it about as it is this day, to save many people alive. Now therefore, do not be afraid; I will provide for you and your little ones.” And he comforted them and spoke kindly to them. – Genesis 50:19-21NKJV)

Some problems come from people who are hostile to God and the word of God.
Some problems come from the fact that we live in a sinful world and because people are sinful and disobedient to God.
Some problems come from people who dislike anyone associated with God.
Some problems come from demonic forces and demonic practices such as witchcraft etc.

However, we have God who is greater than our problems and we must put our trust in Him and we should never lean on our own understanding (Proverbs 3:5,6)

Hebrews 2:18 NKJV
For in that He Himself has suffered, being tempted, He is able to aid those who are tempted.

In the midst of challenges that we may face, God wants us to rely TOTALLY on Him through His Son Jesus. Our peace comes from Jesus and in Him, even though we face the challenges of life, we can STILL have peace.

Whatever problems you are facing today in your life – turn to Jesus; rest in Jesus; cast all your worries and burdens on Jesus; let the peace of Jesus rule your heart; trust in Jesus COMPLETELY; let Jesus teach you to overcome your problems and challenges.

Psalm 55:22 NKJV
Cast your burden on the Lord, And He shall sustain you; He shall never permit the righteous to be moved.


Are You Weary?

Matthew 11:28 NKJV
Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

It is said that 75% of people experience symptoms related to stress in a given month. It is also said that money and work are the leading causes of stress and that these symptoms are both physical and psychological.

Physical symptoms of stress include:
fatigue; headache; upset stomach; muscle tension; change in appetite; teeth grinding; change in sex drive; feeling dizzy; lack of proper sleep

Psychological effects of stress include:
– experiencing irritability or anger
– feeling nervous
– lack of energy
– feeling as though you could cry

It is normal that the mind and body should need rest. We all need mechanisms in our lives that enable us to cope with stress, work and the challenges that we encounter in life.

Jesus offers a solution for those who need rest and peace. Jesus says “Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.”
To those of us who labor; who are heavy laden; to carry too many burdens
1. Jesus invites and urges us to come to Him
2. Jesus promises that when we come to Him with our burdens, He will give us rest.

Jesus is the answer to our physical and psychological issues in life. Too often when we have a problem and are stressed, we think of trying to solve issues with our own strength and willpower. However, Jesus wants us to give our burdens to Him and He wants us to come to Him so that He can give us the rest and peace that we need.

Matthew 11:29-30 NKJV
Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.

• When we are yoked with Christ, our burdens, our labor are no longer heavy, because we have Jesus to help us to overcome the stress and issues of life
• Jesus wants us to learn from Him. Jesus wants to teach us how to cope with the stress and issues of life so that we are not negatively affected physically, psychologically and spiritually.
• Jesus says that when we learn from Him, we will find rest for our souls. Therefore through Jesus we will also find rest for our mind and emotions when we give to Jesus our burdens.

TODAY. Are you weary? Come to Jesus. He will give you rest.

PATIENCE – Fruit of the Spirit

Galatians 5:22 NKJV
But the fruit of the Spirit is … longsuffering 

Patience is part of God’s character. It is a character that you too can have through the Holy Spirit.
The Greek word for Patience is makrothumia (mak-roth-oo-mee’-ah)”. This Greek word denotes longsuffering, endurance, and fortitude.

We live in an impatient world. Everything needs to be done quickly and at the touch-of-a-button or else people will easily give up, give in, complain and become disappointed.
However, in life, there is a time for everything. God wants us to be patient. Not everything happens the way we want it and whenever we want it. Therefore we must always be patient and allow God to do His work in His own time.

James 1:2-4 NKJV
My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience. But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing.

The patience that comes from the Holy Spirit has the following attributes

  • This type of patience is produced by the testing of your faith through the problems and challenges that you may face in your life.
  • This type of patience is not just about waiting for something to happen. It is about being strong in the Lord while you wait.
  • This type of patience helps to build your character and your relationship with God because it is an exercise in maturity, endurance and fortitude.
  • This type of patience matures you so that you lack nothing. You become confident in the Lord.

2 Peter 3:8-9 NKJV
But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.

God is patient. God wants YOU to be patient too. And if you want to be patient then you need the Holy Spirit to teach you to be patient.
A situation can test your patience; a person can test your patience; God can test your patience. Either way, you need to endure and persevere in the midst of tests and trials because when you pass the patience test, you are assured of God’s promise.
Have faith in God as you wait on the Lord. Don’t focus on the time frame; don’t be limited by time. God is not limited by time.

Hebrews 10:36 NKJV
For you have need of endurance, so that after you have done the will of God, you may receive the promise:

TODAY. Allow the Holy Spirit to enable you to be patient.